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Is there a list or sheet that tells you what color parts are? like pulleys, radiator braces different brackets, firewall etc.?

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Here is a compilation from various sources:

http://www.67z28.com/finishes.htm

Specific for the Z/28, but I think this is a decent guide


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Phil is correct, this is a good starting spot. Remember that different manufacture plants were slightly different on occasion with color of part as supplier was not always the same (example Norwood vs. Van Nuys).
I take pictures of unrestored survivor cars and make an effort to duplicate them.
 
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Thank you for the list but it looks like you need to own your own paint store to do this right. Would this be the same for a BB?
 
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Bernie... list what you have questions on as you go along and let us help


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While I am on the subject is there a list that tells you what head stamp goes were on what part?
 
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I am looking at painting the add on parts as I am waiting to get the motor built. I am also thinking about buying a complete set of under hood bolts, I have quite a few bolts extra but a lot of them have a little roundness to them

I was also going through some of my stuff and found a set of NOS body donuts and some other parts but I don't know if I should use them or put them up for sale, If I could afford to do a rotisserie frame off it would be worth using them but as it sits now maybe somebody that is doing the right rebuild would have a better use for the NOS parts
 
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Why is it that all my pulleys brackets,braces etc are black but the paint source call the parts a gray or different color. these sheets have at least 6 different types of black.
 
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Bernie,

If your thinking of selling your frame mounts, let me know I would interested in them. Do they have the GM numbers on them. I could use a set for my pace car Let me know.

Thanks, Bob
 
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Bernie. Good morning.

Your question is broad so I'm going to try to make this as short as I can. You will never please everyone because people are way too set on singular things.. Some guys insist the master cylinder was raw casting color, others that it was black. I for one believe it was made, immediated painted black and then machined so that the places that were made smooth were raw machined steel and the rest stayed black.

On a small block all the pulleys were gray phosphate but the power steering pulley was black. Gray phosphate isn't a paint.. its a chemical process so many restorers paint their stuff a dark gray to simulate what it might have looked like.. thats cool and is cost efficient

Absolutely buy the underhood bolt kit from AMK and don't sweat the bolt head markings.. they are all over the map and from a ton of different vendors.. Most even change from side to side on the same car.. You may have the anchor style on the left core support bar and have the cross style on the right core support bar. I tried to match what came in the kit with what I remembered and saved.. a few where so special that I recolored and reused the originals.. have fun with it and make it what you think is best. Near all where dark gray phosphate or silver cad by the way

The brackets on the engine I think where all dippped in the same vat so quite simply paint it all to match

Things like the core support and inner fenders are Chevy stamped items and should be the same color black...under the hood too I think

Point being... its a bit of a bitch to make it look real and you have to ask questions for each item and do what you think is best


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This may help but I think Gary Bielers BB red car would be a super example for Bernie to follow.. Gary can you post a shot? Wink


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That is a sweet looking engine compartment! This could be a vintage shot. Big Grin
 
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Here you go. FWIW

 
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Bernie.. Notice in Garys higher rez picture that the bolts holding components like the hood hinges and the radiator support bars are NOT painted black.. they are gray phosphate in slightly different shades as would be the case when new because the manufacturer would have colored them in batches and phosphates color ( darker or lighter) is directly determined by how long it is in the solution and the hardness of the metal itself.

There is not guide for what head goes where..they were almost always different from car to car, month to month and plant to plant..


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Between my smallblock and Garys BB you can see that he went with the natural cast master cyl and I went black. His hood hinges may be rephosphated originals were I went later model NOS and they are much darker. I phosphated my own hood latch and Garys is much lighter still. all correct in my book.

My heater core clamps are incorrect by the way but the spring clamps kept leaking so I was forced to use Whitteks.

Also note that Garys heater box is a glossier black than the firewall. I have always seen this to be true as the firewall was painted on the line and the box was painted alsewhere either on site or at a vendors


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