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Is there a document of any type that states just what extra optional equipment came standard if you ordered the Pace Car package?
 
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I've never heard of anything such as this existing!
I believe the best answer depends on the different Groups that the cars came from! Wink
 
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Is there a document of any type that states just what extra optional equipment came standard if you ordered the Pace Car package?

Steve,
What do you mean by "extra optional equipment"? I thought you could get the Pace Car with anything the other Camaro's came with. I don't think there was a standard for Pace Cars except that they were convertibles and Super Sports with the Rally Sport option and the Ermine White paint/Bright Blue interiors.
 
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And blue nose stripe Big Grin


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And blue nose stripe


Phil hit it on the head here as to what I was really wondering about. Since there have been 0-1 cars with only the RS package on them, and not SS equipped, are there also C-1 cars not equipped with the SS package? What I am getting at is how de-featured a car could you get and still have the "pace car replica" stamped on the bottom of the body broadcast sheet?

There had to be a "pace car replica options package" check list that went with the ordering of a pace car, or , at least in theory there could be an RS pacer with a 6 cylinder , 3 speed manual trans in it with a dash coded blue stripe nose.
 
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Had to have disc brakes too??
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Had to have disc brakes too??



Larry, even this may no longer be a true standard!

If we are breaking down the question into the only common option that all the true Coded cars have.....RS Option,Blue Nose a Rag Top, and Blue Deluxe!
 
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Would the Blue nose stripe still be a standard option if there are Black nose strip Pacers out there? Just like we always think Pacers had White tops, but there are some Blue toppers out there too! Wink

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Would the Blue nose stripe still be a standard option if there are Black nose strip Pacers out there?



A black nose pacer.... WAS NOT BORN A PACER!!

They were only used as Pacers!

This association is respected here but the fine line is very very blurry!
This is why they are "Pesky"! Razzer

The fact remains..... These Cars were only used as Pacers!

To me.... History is everything!
 
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Tony,

Agreed 100% Big Grin To what degree these cars were converted to blue stripe and used as part of the IPC Zone activity promotion, converted by Dealers and then sold as part of the Pace setter promotion, sold directly to the public with black stripe and door decals too?

Needs research and proof. We are not there yet.


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To what degree these cars were converted to blue stripe and used as part of the IPC Zone activity promotion, converted by Dealers and then sold as part of the Pace setter promotion, sold directly to the public with black stripe and door decals too?

Needs research and proof. We are not there yet.



Phil, I'm concentrating on this, but my particular focus is on cars made after the race (06A to 06D). Yes, very controvertial ones based on the timeframe! With particular interest on two 06C C-1 and C-4 cars. I don't know how long its going to take, but we'll hopefully get to the original owners, dealerships, and see what the facts were/are.

All I have to date is word of mouth from a Indy pacecar export we all know, older articles were Matt Murphy was interviewed, etc. that this was indeed done by some dealerships and thus I'm terming these ellusive "pesky" cars Dealer Replica-Replicas Eeker


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My 2 cents is that anyone can do & try all they can to find things out.. totally fine with that.. But for a car made after the race with a black stripe to be considered as anything would need killer docs and 1st hand history..and even then would take a far back seat to the coded cars.. NOT saying anythings wrong with that though Smiler


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Tom I agree! WAY in the back seat of the real/authentic cars and replicas!!!

The true black nose dealer replicas would have to be pre race cars (like the one we have here in our group, M's car) and then we might have a few Indy/Ohio dealerships that were still on that bandwagon until near the end of June...

I would expect that the public (and some dealers) didn't care if they were 04, 05, or 06 they just wanted a car that looked like a pacer...

Another theory is its possible that a few buyers looking for a 67 pacer didn't want one with mileage, so they could have gone to various dealers till they found one that would order them one.


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yes all valid points.. I bet there were replica replicas that were completely discredited and now have history lost forever..I too have a soft spot for giving any car a fair shake provided certain criteria are met


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Tom,

I think I might start a string tonight named"

"Dealer replica (blue nose) and replica-replica (black/blue nose?) cars. What we know and don't know about these mysterious cars..."

What topic do you suggest I start this under?


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pace car discussion


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Is there a document of any type that states just what extra optional equipment came standard if you ordered the Pace Car package?


Wow, ask and you shall recieve! I think Tony's little ebay buy spells it out nicely!

http://camaropacecars.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2050022933/m/4710065335


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Mike thats right...and just so everyone knows.. Deluxe Steering Wheel in Chevys eyes is THE IMPALA WHEEL...
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Deluxe Steering Wheel in Chevys eyes is THE IMPALA WHEEL...


Tom,

What about the woodgrain-chrome spoke corvette type wheel we see on so many of the pacers??? Thats not considered deluxe?


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Rick that would be optional and I consider it deluxe Smiler The deluxe was the impala style wheel in 1967.
 
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Thanks for the clarification Pat! Impala wheel it is.... Wink


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NO. Thats called wood wheel and is considered the highest possible optioned wheel


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If an identical replica of the final build characteristics of the actual pace car were factory ordered through the initial program the cowl tag would look like this example. Ironically the two actual pace car's cowl tags reflect their initial build data that of L78/M20 combinations. If they had been factory built without the 98168 refit order this is what the cowl tag would have looked like.

 
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Something I see odd with that optional equipment list on Tonys latest purchase, is the power steering is standard statement. Tom M, your C-1 is manual steering, isn't it?

Is it also true then that all C-1 BB cars were turbos also, or is there any data showing some of them powerglides or 4 speeds?
 
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My C-1 is 04A with the 061A code and all..

The options are very off the mark: manual steer, manual disc brakes, power top and tilt wheel, 4 speed...

Go figure


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