I'll need the evening to digest the possibilities as they relate to our cars but in this months Muscle Car Review Magazine they have published a huge list of probable VINs that are 1967 Yenko Camaros..

Remember please that 67 Yenkos have dashes just like Pacecars and the spacing between each VIN is amazing. I will scan the list and post it up in the AM from work..

a teaser list

230781
230801 20 apart
230821 20 apart
230871 50 apart
230891 20 apart
230941 50 apart

SCAN

Looking at this list and revisiting the mystery of how our cars were built ( or more exactly how the 03C Commmitment cars were built) I cannot help but see the similarities and how they might correspond to the " Dash "..

I hen scratched a list of the number of units between each vin. I wish I was one of those savant math geniuses because I swear I can see consistantcies in the numbering of the Yenkos. The Yenko list is all but complete so its even more telling than our list of found Pacecars ( the Yenko list is like the Canadian list for us.. all vins but only some cars)

Looking at the 03C run of our cars I see a very similar pattern if allowing for so many obviously missing cars..

Point being: if you over simplify these numbers and add up the gaps for any given batch ( I call it a batch just because on occasion there is a large spread between VINs. ) you end up with much less than a single days production total...hence one could speculate that any given group was a one day buildup or at the minumum split between two days shifts

To be more generalized.. one might speculate that if batches of Yenkos prove to have sequential body numbers then they are nearly the exact same build process of the Pacers.. I will endeavour to find out if any Yenkos have the codes we have as primmers for a dash based buildup like Tony had speculated about a few years ago...you know the 061A, 062A 050A etc..

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Heres my before breakfast or even coffee hen scratched number gaps for the Yenkos on the left and some Pacers on the right...

Adding that batch of Pacer gaps up I come up with around 589 units spaced throughout.. thats way under a days run with that small hand picked sample ( very unscientific I understand )

The Yenkos as batched by me haphazardly.. I come up under 900 as well for any given batch..

Batch #2 for yenko 885 ( thats a close one)
Batch #3 for Yenko 468

This is an all made up scenario from me to brainstorm but its looking promising any way you slice it.. more needs to be done and with much more exacting math but this Yenko correlation might turn out to be a helpful puzzle piece..

Let me know if anyone has any ideas

very cool! We need to get you some more coffee!

Tom "the Rain man" McGinnity!You are not well my freind.lol

If they ever need a replacement for the guy on the TV show "The Mentalist". I'm submitting your name Tom.

Seriously, I think there may be something to that theory. Well thought out!

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TOM, when I took these vins a couple weeks ago and added them to the list of L78 cars on the list the batchs I found were from first batch 05D cars second batch 06A cars third batch 06D cars you should see it on a spreadsheet 209 L78 cars on the list.

Whats your take on it? Are they batched like I seem to think they are?

Yes,

I think a lot of "special order" cars (pacers, Canadian festival cars, Yanko's, and L78's) were batched in terms of Body Sequence Numbering as special orders for like cars were probably saved up and and then entered all at once (sequentially) as we've seen this in several instances, then spaced out on the Chevrolet side when they entered the lanes that John's dicussed on numerous occasions and given the VIN's which were probably sequencial when they ran down that side...

This spacing out (and thus VIN's spaced out) on the Chevrolet side was to allow high content car builts to run down the line without causing a problen with flow of all the different optioned camaros being built.

In several causes I believe these special cars were built over a shift or two.

I have also found a few "like content" cars that were not special order cars (no-dash) found right in the middle of these builds like some of the black nosers and blue toppers. Not quite sure if this was coincidence or planned...

More than anything I'm intrigued by the similarities involved.. of course I understand that the system at Norwood applied to all, but its awesome to see that Yenko had the funds and the pull to get and purchase all (or most) of the cars he needed to convert that year in one monster batch ( Ala' Pacecars )... This guy must have had a HUGE payables folder the next month! If I had the time I'd love to get with a few of these 67 Yenko gurus and see which of these cars have the fleet code ( like our L181a and O61a codes )? I'd bet the bank some do!

It also opens up the debate about how these cars V. the trim tag went down the Fisher Line.. I cringe at the thought of even mentioning it

Does anyone know who the registry keeper for the 67 Yenko Camaros is? I'd like to at least make contact and see if they even realize this strange similarity

Don't have the data for every single known 67 Yenko but do have quite a few of them. The full - and number verse just the dash seems to be about if not the same ratio as the Pace Cars.

What is the number or is that not for public?